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What Are Vipassana And Anapana Meditation To Gnostic Students, for students preparing for the inner gnostic circles
Samariter
post Jul 21 2008, 02:37 PM
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What are these technics to gnosticstudents?

If one is setting a grain on his way, it is nothing to
say against it to do it!

To become very strong in his concentrations,
to have a base in overcoming troublesome,
disturbing thougts.

To have very interesting experiences in colours,
lights, bringing the brain free the first time.
(with legal help)

to rest from the forward-wipping world,
for inner orientation. mellow.gif



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post Jul 24 2008, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE (Samariter @ Jul 21 2008, 12:37 PM) *
What are these technics to gnosticstudents?

If one is setting a grain on his way, it is nothing to
say against it to do it!

To become very strong in his concentrations,
to have a base in overcoming troublesome,
disturbing thougts.

To have very interesting experiences in colours,
lights, bringing the brain free the first time.
(with legal help)

to rest from the forward-wipping world,
for inner orientation. mellow.gif


Yes I am very glad I got good feedback from people here, especially MT because It was important to see and have the support...Granted some things don't pertain to Samael too much but they do need to be clear to help us on our path...
Pranayama is intense and a great tool too, with some dangers involved that not many talk about...Very real dangers...
Every school, including the Vipassana ones, and this one, have their problems and it is good to be be open about different techniques and practices in order to help students...


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post Jul 29 2008, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (Merkaba @ Jul 24 2008, 08:29 AM) *
Yes I am very glad I got good feedback from people here, especially MT because It was important to see and have the support...Granted some things don't pertain to Samael too much but they do need to be clear to help us on our path...
Pranayama is intense and a great tool too, with some dangers involved that not many talk about...Very real dangers...
Every school, including the Vipassana ones, and this one, have their problems and it is good to be be open about different techniques and practices in order to help students...

Saying pranayama has dangers is like saying rice is dangerous. How is food dangerous? Maybe if you abuse it. Pranayama is a technique that feeds the consciousness. If you learn the right techniques, it can only help you. Those who say it is dangerous are either (1) using techniques that are flawed or of questionable origin or (2) have never used pranayama and are afraid.

Regarding schools, the only way a school can have problems is because of the ego of the members or instructors. Older schools and groups who have degenerated are so because of the ego. Yet, real schools - those who are truly following the instructions of the Light - are organized and led by Christ, thus how can there be any problem there? smile.gif (Not all schools are the same or suffer the same problems!)


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post Aug 1 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (Matthew Thomas @ Jul 29 2008, 06:56 AM) *
Saying pranayama has dangers is like saying rice is dangerous. How is food dangerous? Maybe if you abuse it. Pranayama is a technique that feeds the consciousness. If you learn the right techniques, it can only help you. Those who say it is dangerous are either (1) using techniques that are flawed or of questionable origin or (2) have never used pranayama and are afraid.

Regarding schools, the only way a school can have problems is because of the ego of the members or instructors. Older schools and groups who have degenerated are so because of the ego. Yet, real schools - those who are truly following the instructions of the Light - are organized and led by Christ, thus how can there be any problem there? smile.gif (Not all schools are the same or suffer the same problems!)



some years ago I was walking down the beach at Swamis below Yoganandas in Encinitas, Ca...
I was meditating a lot then , sometimes not sleeping more than an hour a night but instead just siting in meditation...
I didn't know anything about pranayama at the time...

I felt energy all around me and through me and I started walking down the beach with my hands open feeling this amazing phenomena...

A beautiful lady with blue~green eyes was walking toward me in the distance with her hands open just like mine...

When she came close I said to her that this energy is amazing and she said she could live in it forever...
We smiled and she turned and started praying while looking out at the ocean...
It was early morning and no one else around....Only us, the birds and the cliff behind us up to the self realization center....

I sat 20 feet away or so and closed my eyes for what was about a minute or less and than opened them and she was gone....

At that instant my head opened up and a fluid substance seemed to pour in and I learned pranayama in an instant...

I learned that we don't need to breath at all...
We can breath through our chakras and I started to do this....

Some days later the dangers were discovered but not understood until much later...

You can slip beyond the veil in your physical body and you can rearange your organs after extensive pranayama..
I was practicing 23 hours a day by then....

If you had the bad karma to eat too much at this point it would be like stuffing 50 pounds of rice in a 10 pound bag..... ohmy.gif
And you could go to a mental hospital or jump off a cliff while in and out of dimensions....

Luckily that didn't happen....

Of course I was doing very advanced pranayama and I had just learned it so I lost my point of reference very quickly...

We are all different, but we should be aware of certain things....

We have no idea how powerful we are...

We have no idea what damage we can do with our ignorance...

I am not trying to spread fear..
I think we should practice Pranayama or Vipassana or something 24 hours a day but you better know what some of the effects are so that you are prepared....

And these efffects are not just limited to me..

"Pranayama is a technique that feeds the consciousness." is absolutely correct ...

There are reasons why the advanced techniques should only be done with the help of a guide...

There are reasons why you can't read about some of these techniques....

And as Samael would say, 'I am as insignifigant as the ashes of a ciggerette' so please just do what you feel lead to do but remember to be aware of this .....

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QUOTE (Matthew Thomas @ Jul 29 2008, 09:56 AM) *
Saying pranayama has dangers is like saying rice is dangerous. How is food dangerous? Maybe if you abuse it. Pranayama is a technique that feeds the consciousness. If you learn the right techniques, it can only help you. Those who say it is dangerous are either (1) using techniques that are flawed or of questionable origin or (2) have never used pranayama and are afraid.

Regarding schools, the only way a school can have problems is because of the ego of the members or instructors. Older schools and groups who have degenerated are so because of the ego. Yet, real schools - those who are truly following the instructions of the Light - are organized and led by Christ, thus how can there be any problem there? smile.gif (Not all schools are the same or suffer the same problems!)


How to determine which schools are truly following the instructions of the Light and organized and led by Christ and which ones are degenerated?

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post Aug 2 2008, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (I Have Questions @ Aug 2 2008, 07:02 AM) *
How to determine which schools are truly following the instructions of the Light and organized and led by Christ and which ones are degenerated?


Instructions from teachers doing the best to let the
students thems own will.

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post Aug 2 2008, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (I Have Questions @ Aug 1 2008, 10:02 PM) *
How to determine which schools are truly following the instructions of the Light and organized and led by Christ and which ones are degenerated?


which ones teach Chastity....


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QUOTE (Merkaba @ Aug 2 2008, 08:31 AM) *
which ones teach Chastity....


is that "Belzeboob" school ok then? they teach Chastity, no?
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (I Have Questions @ Aug 3 2008, 10:38 PM) *
is that "Belzeboob" school ok then? they teach Chastity, no?



In my mind they are very much not ok, but search this site for that info on them because there is a lot of it...


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post Sep 25 2008, 03:16 PM
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